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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/08/30/saturday-night-live/comment-page-1/#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, Vishnu. There are corrupt policemen. But don&#039;t you think you should be paying the tax in the first place? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, Vishnu. There are corrupt policemen. But don&#8217;t you think you should be paying the tax in the first place? <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Vishnu Menon M</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/08/30/saturday-night-live/comment-page-1/#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator>Vishnu Menon M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Many city residents here praise the clampdown on drunken driving, which I’m told is one of the major causes of accidents in the night.&quot;

In Bangalore policemen try getting &#039;bhaksheesh&#039;[that Rs100.&#039;] out of poor non-Karnataka registration [ppl seldom bother paying state tax whn taking bike to new_place] bike-owners at  night when ppl like yours truly return from a hard day&#039;s work.
Its not just drunken driving clampdown that stirs the noble police heart!, Ashok!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many city residents here praise the clampdown on drunken driving, which I’m told is one of the major causes of accidents in the night.&#8221;</p>
<p>In Bangalore policemen try getting &#8216;bhaksheesh&#8217;[that Rs100.'] out of poor non-Karnataka registration [ppl seldom bother paying state tax whn taking bike to new_place] bike-owners at  night when ppl like yours truly return from a hard day&#8217;s work.<br />
Its not just drunken driving clampdown that stirs the noble police heart!, Ashok!</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/08/30/saturday-night-live/comment-page-1/#comment-930</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rrishi, yes, after another late-night inspection, a friend and I voiced the doubt &quot;how good is it really&quot;. I feel the police see it as only one of the instruments in their arsenal, not the key one. They do intelligence work (which too happens beyond our field of vision). The crime-fighting value of night patrol/policing might be akin to the eye -- we realise its worth only when we don&#039;t have it. We&#039;ll quickly blame the lack of it, but stingily acknowledge when it exists. Many city residents here praise the clampdown on drunken driving, which I&#039;m told is one of the major causes of accidents in the night. But as you suggested, once in a while, top officers should develop newer methods based on data. I&#039;ve seen &#039;good&#039; officers still lazily using 19th century methods, instead of coming up with original and innovative solutions.

Jiby, thanks. Good to meet you here after a while. I recently met a guy who was lamenting &quot;Jiby &lt;i&gt;chettan&lt;/i&gt;&#039;s blog &lt;i&gt;nirthiyallo&lt;/i&gt;&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rrishi, yes, after another late-night inspection, a friend and I voiced the doubt &#8220;how good is it really&#8221;. I feel the police see it as only one of the instruments in their arsenal, not the key one. They do intelligence work (which too happens beyond our field of vision). The crime-fighting value of night patrol/policing might be akin to the eye &#8212; we realise its worth only when we don&#8217;t have it. We&#8217;ll quickly blame the lack of it, but stingily acknowledge when it exists. Many city residents here praise the clampdown on drunken driving, which I&#8217;m told is one of the major causes of accidents in the night. But as you suggested, once in a while, top officers should develop newer methods based on data. I&#8217;ve seen &#8216;good&#8217; officers still lazily using 19th century methods, instead of coming up with original and innovative solutions.</p>
<p>Jiby, thanks. Good to meet you here after a while. I recently met a guy who was lamenting &#8220;Jiby <i>chettan</i>&#8216;s blog <i>nirthiyallo</i>&#8220;.</p>
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		<title>By: Aju</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/08/30/saturday-night-live/comment-page-1/#comment-929</link>
		<dc:creator>Aju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anup Kuruvilla is hot stuff.</description>
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		<title>By: jiby</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/08/30/saturday-night-live/comment-page-1/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>jiby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashok, what do i say! Brilliant piece of writing, man. 
Anoop, a big thank you is all i can say. Hope to meet you some day soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashok, what do i say! Brilliant piece of writing, man.<br />
Anoop, a big thank you is all i can say. Hope to meet you some day soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Rrishi Raote</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/08/30/saturday-night-live/comment-page-1/#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>Rrishi Raote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Great story, excitingly told, but only a little reassuring. Little, because is deeply imperfect late-night stop-and-searching actually any good against extremists? Or just drunk drivers? The police (and this officer) in this instance are doing their assigned job well, but is this the job they should be doing? If the police get timely and actionable intelligence, perhaps that will enable them to take specific action against extremists -- without intelligence, they will just dull their edge with this drudgery. (But how to gather intelligence without compromising civil rights?)

One problem with commenting on any police action is that one knows so little about how the police function, what the field protocols are. Chances are, modern protocol is a holdover from the colonial era. This barriers business (uniform favourite police tactic across India, absolutely constipates traffic during rush hour in Delhi for little gain) seems pretty antique. In America it would be decried as opening the door wide to racial or class-based profiling.

How good is it really -- is there any data...? What do thinking policemen say about it? Curious to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Great story, excitingly told, but only a little reassuring. Little, because is deeply imperfect late-night stop-and-searching actually any good against extremists? Or just drunk drivers? The police (and this officer) in this instance are doing their assigned job well, but is this the job they should be doing? If the police get timely and actionable intelligence, perhaps that will enable them to take specific action against extremists &#8212; without intelligence, they will just dull their edge with this drudgery. (But how to gather intelligence without compromising civil rights?)</p>
<p>One problem with commenting on any police action is that one knows so little about how the police function, what the field protocols are. Chances are, modern protocol is a holdover from the colonial era. This barriers business (uniform favourite police tactic across India, absolutely constipates traffic during rush hour in Delhi for little gain) seems pretty antique. In America it would be decried as opening the door wide to racial or class-based profiling.</p>
<p>How good is it really &#8212; is there any data&#8230;? What do thinking policemen say about it? Curious to know.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-09-04 &#171; Unjustly</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/08/30/saturday-night-live/comment-page-1/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-09-04 &#171; Unjustly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ashok’s blog on Loyola School: The ARChive : Trivandrum (Thiruvananthapuram) » » Saturday Night ... When I stopped the car at The Policeman’s house, he said, “Sorry to have ruined your sleep. We’ll meet for brunch at some nice place.” I was overcome with emotion, for I felt that I had contributed my mite to keeping the city secure ahead of Independence Day. So I replied, “No, no. Not at all. I don’t mind losing sleep for something like this.” And then I added, “After all, such inspections are unusual. They happen only once in a while, on special occasions.” The Policeman opened the car door, looked at me, and said, “Ashok, I do this every other week.” (tags: police service perseverance life) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ashok’s blog on Loyola School: The ARChive : Trivandrum (Thiruvananthapuram) » » Saturday Night &#8230; When I stopped the car at The Policeman’s house, he said, “Sorry to have ruined your sleep. We’ll meet for brunch at some nice place.” I was overcome with emotion, for I felt that I had contributed my mite to keeping the city secure ahead of Independence Day. So I replied, “No, no. Not at all. I don’t mind losing sleep for something like this.” And then I added, “After all, such inspections are unusual. They happen only once in a while, on special occasions.” The Policeman opened the car door, looked at me, and said, “Ashok, I do this every other week.” (tags: police service perseverance life) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/08/30/saturday-night-live/comment-page-1/#comment-924</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nikhil, it happened just like that. A few days later, when a similar opportunity arose, I told him &quot;Wait! I&#039;ll go home and bring my camera. I&#039;d like to blog about it&quot;. Shying away from publicity, he refused. This blogpost is revenge :) Yes, Indian policemen are reviled so much that sometimes we overlook the good things they do.

Thank you for highlighting this post on DesiPundit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nikhil, it happened just like that. A few days later, when a similar opportunity arose, I told him &#8220;Wait! I&#8217;ll go home and bring my camera. I&#8217;d like to blog about it&#8221;. Shying away from publicity, he refused. This blogpost is revenge <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Yes, Indian policemen are reviled so much that sometimes we overlook the good things they do.</p>
<p>Thank you for highlighting this post on DesiPundit.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikhil Narayanan</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/08/30/saturday-night-live/comment-page-1/#comment-923</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikhil Narayanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 04:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashok,
I envy you.
How I wish I could do what you did :)

They do an awesome job and that is because they are a zillion times intelligent than the dumb politicians.

-Nikhil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashok,<br />
I envy you.<br />
How I wish I could do what you did <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>They do an awesome job and that is because they are a zillion times intelligent than the dumb politicians.</p>
<p>-Nikhil</p>
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		<title>By: Night with the Big Cop &#124; DesiPundit</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/08/30/saturday-night-live/comment-page-1/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>Night with the Big Cop &#124; DesiPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 04:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &amp; Society, Personal Stuff    Ashok gets a chance to move around with a city commissioner and narrates his experience. When I stopped the car at The Policeman’s house, he said, “Sorry to have ruined your sleep. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#38; Society, Personal Stuff    Ashok gets a chance to move around with a city commissioner and narrates his experience. When I stopped the car at The Policeman’s house, he said, “Sorry to have ruined your sleep. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/08/30/saturday-night-live/comment-page-1/#comment-921</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vishnu, my experience has been similar in Kozhikode in recent months. Once, when I told the cops my occupation (&quot;writer&quot;), one policeman twitched his eyebrows after failing to recall this literary giant who had descended on their town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vishnu, my experience has been similar in Kozhikode in recent months. Once, when I told the cops my occupation (&#8220;writer&#8221;), one policeman twitched his eyebrows after failing to recall this literary giant who had descended on their town.</p>
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		<title>By: Vishnu Menon M</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/08/30/saturday-night-live/comment-page-1/#comment-918</link>
		<dc:creator>Vishnu Menon M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been stopped by policemen at night two times in Tvm. If you can tell your source and your destination , and the purpose/reasons;  and if you are not drunk, its all clear!!!. Else... oops I don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been stopped by policemen at night two times in Tvm. If you can tell your source and your destination , and the purpose/reasons;  and if you are not drunk, its all clear!!!. Else&#8230; oops I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sriram, there&#039;s another Loyolite police officer -- Sreejesh K.V. (1990) in Tripura. I&#039;m sure that he has exciting, adventurous tales to tell us.

Asif, there&#039;s something about the place Sreekariyam that makes people nice and decent, honest and hardworking ;) Thanks for the nice story. The night society is a world that few of us encounter, especially since we chat online till 3am :)

John, happy to see you comment here. I was trying my hand at a narrative style.

Karthik, I used &quot;The Policeman&quot; to convey any cop (anywhere) -- not to lend a suspense angle to who the guy is. I should be more careful when I write next time. Thanks for the lesson!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sriram, there&#8217;s another Loyolite police officer &#8212; Sreejesh K.V. (1990) in Tripura. I&#8217;m sure that he has exciting, adventurous tales to tell us.</p>
<p>Asif, there&#8217;s something about the place Sreekariyam that makes people nice and decent, honest and hardworking <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks for the nice story. The night society is a world that few of us encounter, especially since we chat online till 3am <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>John, happy to see you comment here. I was trying my hand at a narrative style.</p>
<p>Karthik, I used &#8220;The Policeman&#8221; to convey any cop (anywhere) &#8212; not to lend a suspense angle to who the guy is. I should be more careful when I write next time. Thanks for the lesson!</p>
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		<title>By: Karthik.C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karthik.C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 04:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post Ashok. My classmate Reghu had told me about Anoop being in the IPS, and so I had guessed what was coming after reading the first few lines. Truly , they are doing a great service to the nation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post Ashok. My classmate Reghu had told me about Anoop being in the IPS, and so I had guessed what was coming after reading the first few lines. Truly , they are doing a great service to the nation!</p>
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		<title>By: john l paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>john l paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ashok,
Great &#039;story&#039; man :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ashok,<br />
Great &#8216;story&#8217; man <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Asif Kalam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asif Kalam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The conclusion is the highlight here.

A few months ago, I and two of my classmates were riding home very late in the night after the finale of our college fest. We were in high spirits (two of us figuratively, and the third, literally too ;) ) and making a racket - singing loudly and hollering to each other. We were duly stopped at Sreekariyam Junction by a waiting patrol.

Thankfully, the cops were in a jolly mood, and we were let off without much fuss. There was this constable who lectured us about the policeman who gives up his sleep so for ours. At that time I thought, &quot;Haha, another wayside preacher&quot;.

I can see the point in a brighter light now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The conclusion is the highlight here.</p>
<p>A few months ago, I and two of my classmates were riding home very late in the night after the finale of our college fest. We were in high spirits (two of us figuratively, and the third, literally too <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) and making a racket &#8211; singing loudly and hollering to each other. We were duly stopped at Sreekariyam Junction by a waiting patrol.</p>
<p>Thankfully, the cops were in a jolly mood, and we were let off without much fuss. There was this constable who lectured us about the policeman who gives up his sleep so for ours. At that time I thought, &#8220;Haha, another wayside preacher&#8221;.</p>
<p>I can see the point in a brighter light now.</p>
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		<title>By: Sriram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sriram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 05:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post... its certainly a feeling of pride to read about a police officer who is an ex-loyolite!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post&#8230; its certainly a feeling of pride to read about a police officer who is an ex-loyolite!</p>
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