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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hari, didn&#039;t know it was you. Cool! I have a midi file of the school song.

Will wait for you to set up the GPRS website, or make loyolites.com GPRS-friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hari, didn&#8217;t know it was you. Cool! I have a midi file of the school song.</p>
<p>Will wait for you to set up the GPRS website, or make loyolites.com GPRS-friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Hari Shanker R.</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>Hari Shanker R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A GPRS Website = a no-frills website which can be accessed from Moblie Phones using GPRS (Global Packet Radio Services) technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A GPRS Website = a no-frills website which can be accessed from Moblie Phones using GPRS (Global Packet Radio Services) technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Syam Nath S</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-508</link>
		<dc:creator>Syam Nath S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo Ambani,
That was you huh ? I never knew heh.
And what exactly would a GPRS website mean :-?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo Ambani,<br />
That was you huh ? I never knew heh.<br />
And what exactly would a GPRS website mean <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':-?' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hari Shanker R.</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-507</link>
		<dc:creator>Hari Shanker R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inspiring to say the least, chetta.  Your post actually gave a rather potent fillip to my dream to create a website for &#039;The Zero Six Guys&#039;. I&#039;ll need a loyolites.com subdomain! :D Hope you&#039;ll oblige.

Speaking of which:
&quot;Heard of the guy who created a “Cheer Loyola Sons” ringtone?&quot;
That was me! :P The ringtones are still available!

SMS RT SS to +919895898806 for The School Song
       RT LAF for The LA Fest Song!
[Works only on Nokia phones]

I&#039;m planning poly &amp; mp3 ringtones. What say about a GPRS website?? :</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inspiring to say the least, chetta.  Your post actually gave a rather potent fillip to my dream to create a website for &#8216;The Zero Six Guys&#8217;. I&#8217;ll need a loyolites.com subdomain! <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  Hope you&#8217;ll oblige.</p>
<p>Speaking of which:<br />
&#8220;Heard of the guy who created a “Cheer Loyola Sons” ringtone?&#8221;<br />
That was me! <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  The ringtones are still available!</p>
<p>SMS RT SS to +919895898806 for The School Song<br />
       RT LAF for The LA Fest Song!<br />
[Works only on Nokia phones]</p>
<p>I&#8217;m planning poly &amp; mp3 ringtones. What say about a GPRS website?? :</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Karthik. Team blogging can work if 2-3 guys take charge as Editors. Write, and also get guest posts. Fortnightly or monthly schedule will ease pressure on you guys too. I&#039;ll be happy to set up a Wordpress blog here at loyolites.com for a team blog. My suggestion is: don&#039;t make it a batch-specific blog. A non-batch blog will have more readers and contributors. Karthik? Jiby? Deepak?

The problem that Syam mentioned is true for many voluntary initiatives: a few chaps are more active than others. So what? The 1% who lead should not expect the 99% to be as active as themselves. In my experience, where Loyolites have perceived a benefit (be it in enjoying a service themselves, or the satisfaction of helping the school/society), they have chipped in -- as volunteers for medical camp, as sponsors of an alumni website, etc.. These volunteers and sponsors were from the 99%. I was touched when a guy who studied just two years in Loyola (+2) contributed for LOBA&#039;s official site in 2003-04.

It might sound harsh. But I feel that LOBA is now run by tired people who do not see much merit in doing things for others. When such people form the 1% leadership core, do not expect the 99% to help out wholeheartedly. First, decide to do things for others. Then, do things for others. Thereafter, appeal for support, show the benefits, etc. People will reciprocate for doing bigger things; that&#039;s my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Karthik. Team blogging can work if 2-3 guys take charge as Editors. Write, and also get guest posts. Fortnightly or monthly schedule will ease pressure on you guys too. I&#8217;ll be happy to set up a WordPress blog here at loyolites.com for a team blog. My suggestion is: don&#8217;t make it a batch-specific blog. A non-batch blog will have more readers and contributors. Karthik? Jiby? Deepak?</p>
<p>The problem that Syam mentioned is true for many voluntary initiatives: a few chaps are more active than others. So what? The 1% who lead should not expect the 99% to be as active as themselves. In my experience, where Loyolites have perceived a benefit (be it in enjoying a service themselves, or the satisfaction of helping the school/society), they have chipped in &#8212; as volunteers for medical camp, as sponsors of an alumni website, etc.. These volunteers and sponsors were from the 99%. I was touched when a guy who studied just two years in Loyola (+2) contributed for LOBA&#8217;s official site in 2003-04.</p>
<p>It might sound harsh. But I feel that LOBA is now run by tired people who do not see much merit in doing things for others. When such people form the 1% leadership core, do not expect the 99% to help out wholeheartedly. First, decide to do things for others. Then, do things for others. Thereafter, appeal for support, show the benefits, etc. People will reciprocate for doing bigger things; that&#8217;s my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Syam Nath S</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Syam Nath S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@karthik.
Thanks for the referance :-D



Ashoketta,
You say 99% of the guys are not intersted neither in the alumni nor the school. I quote someone whose now in the loba board. &quot; People want to know what theLOBA can give them. not what they can have to do for the association&quot;
likewise, people want to knwo what they get out of it all.

I&#039;ve been to the meetings and all ever since i joined the LOBA and got &quot;nominated&quot; as JS that year itself. And though i see nothing much accomplished, it has helped me get a whole load of frinds from across the years. Decades!. People from all walks of life and around the world. Contacts that a boy just outta school would otherwise never have had. 
For someone as social as me(i belive), its fun. Few do critisise the meetings accomplish nothing. But its likeminded people who enjoy company who come together to do stuff like this. That is what drives THEM.

 For us few who seem jobless enough to write all this(btw. I AM jobless lol), the fact is that we enjoy what we do. but as Jiby said, everyone might not. Some like to read i guess, because it brings back the nostalgic memories. It gives them something. But for them to do it, for them to help run a site, for them to contribute, they want to know what they get out of it.


Do we have an answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@karthik.<br />
Thanks for the referance <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ashoketta,<br />
You say 99% of the guys are not intersted neither in the alumni nor the school. I quote someone whose now in the loba board. &#8221; People want to know what theLOBA can give them. not what they can have to do for the association&#8221;<br />
likewise, people want to knwo what they get out of it all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been to the meetings and all ever since i joined the LOBA and got &#8220;nominated&#8221; as JS that year itself. And though i see nothing much accomplished, it has helped me get a whole load of frinds from across the years. Decades!. People from all walks of life and around the world. Contacts that a boy just outta school would otherwise never have had.<br />
For someone as social as me(i belive), its fun. Few do critisise the meetings accomplish nothing. But its likeminded people who enjoy company who come together to do stuff like this. That is what drives THEM.</p>
<p> For us few who seem jobless enough to write all this(btw. I AM jobless lol), the fact is that we enjoy what we do. but as Jiby said, everyone might not. Some like to read i guess, because it brings back the nostalgic memories. It gives them something. But for them to do it, for them to help run a site, for them to contribute, they want to know what they get out of it.</p>
<p>Do we have an answer?</p>
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		<title>By: Karthik.C</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>Karthik.C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the team blogging on the memories of the Loyola years is a really good concept. I try to do as much as possible to recall my days in Loyola through my blog, but sadly very few , like Jiby said, seem to be interested in it. The ones like Jiby and Syam who did it regularly and whole heartedly are doing a wonderful job.

Looking forward to read many more Loyolite diaries. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the team blogging on the memories of the Loyola years is a really good concept. I try to do as much as possible to recall my days in Loyola through my blog, but sadly very few , like Jiby said, seem to be interested in it. The ones like Jiby and Syam who did it regularly and whole heartedly are doing a wonderful job.</p>
<p>Looking forward to read many more Loyolite diaries. <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a thoughtful comment. My experience with LOBA too has been similar to Jiby&#039;s -- in a world of competing interests on people&#039;s time/mindspace, the alumni movement (why, even Loyola) is low priority for more than 99% of the old boys.

But if the remaining 1% can set up things and work towards popularising a product/service, there will be an impact.  loyolites.com is a platform for the 1% to implement ideas.

Some ideas will fail. No problemo. Some ideas need more time; Loyola was not made in a day :) So, guys, please don&#039;t give up yet. Who knows, you might win support from outside your batch. So, onward.

Contact me, talk to other old boys of other batches, bounce ideas, think of how to do things for others. The 99% will chip in some day, in some way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a thoughtful comment. My experience with LOBA too has been similar to Jiby&#8217;s &#8212; in a world of competing interests on people&#8217;s time/mindspace, the alumni movement (why, even Loyola) is low priority for more than 99% of the old boys.</p>
<p>But if the remaining 1% can set up things and work towards popularising a product/service, there will be an impact.  loyolites.com is a platform for the 1% to implement ideas.</p>
<p>Some ideas will fail. No problemo. Some ideas need more time; Loyola was not made in a day <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  So, guys, please don&#8217;t give up yet. Who knows, you might win support from outside your batch. So, onward.</p>
<p>Contact me, talk to other old boys of other batches, bounce ideas, think of how to do things for others. The 99% will chip in some day, in some way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jiby</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>Jiby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am from one of those batches were the sentiments of batch fraternity have for long overweighed the feeling of overall Loyola brotherhood. Until Orkut and your blog came up I never thought it possible that a Loyola community could be fostered succesfully...have never been to a LOBA meeting or get to read about their activities...so I have no idea how active it is. 

I loved your generational capture of alumni products. Technology certainly has become an enabler for enterprising old boys but the 2nd gen products launched  failed because they didnt promote interactivity and 3rd gen interactive products like the discussion forum on Orkut have become passive and have not lived up to their potential because the target audience is just not interested in making the little effort asked of them.

The LENS is something I loved to read back then and would love to get my hands on regularly. Taking it online would be something we would all appreciate as everyone seems to be starved of news from school.

However a Loyola Shop might succeed because when it comes to the school we loyolites love to wear our hearts on our sleeves and clothes and memorabilia should sell well. Good Luck to you on this venture! 

Not to sound pessimistic, I have no ideas to sell...after failing to sell the idea of the batch website to my own classmates to be updated in collaborative manner and then a team blogging effort on our years in Loyola that never went beyond the conceptualization stage...I came to realize that most loyolites will &quot;read online but not act online&quot;(rephrasing from your lessons learnt post!). Not blaming anyone...i have learnt that what interests me need not interest several others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am from one of those batches were the sentiments of batch fraternity have for long overweighed the feeling of overall Loyola brotherhood. Until Orkut and your blog came up I never thought it possible that a Loyola community could be fostered succesfully&#8230;have never been to a LOBA meeting or get to read about their activities&#8230;so I have no idea how active it is. </p>
<p>I loved your generational capture of alumni products. Technology certainly has become an enabler for enterprising old boys but the 2nd gen products launched  failed because they didnt promote interactivity and 3rd gen interactive products like the discussion forum on Orkut have become passive and have not lived up to their potential because the target audience is just not interested in making the little effort asked of them.</p>
<p>The LENS is something I loved to read back then and would love to get my hands on regularly. Taking it online would be something we would all appreciate as everyone seems to be starved of news from school.</p>
<p>However a Loyola Shop might succeed because when it comes to the school we loyolites love to wear our hearts on our sleeves and clothes and memorabilia should sell well. Good Luck to you on this venture! </p>
<p>Not to sound pessimistic, I have no ideas to sell&#8230;after failing to sell the idea of the batch website to my own classmates to be updated in collaborative manner and then a team blogging effort on our years in Loyola that never went beyond the conceptualization stage&#8230;I came to realize that most loyolites will &#8220;read online but not act online&#8221;(rephrasing from your lessons learnt post!). Not blaming anyone&#8230;i have learnt that what interests me need not interest several others.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting...I too proposed. We can upload LENS at loyolites.com and promote it via the e-newsletter. But first, LENS &lt;i&gt;venamallo&lt;/i&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230;I too proposed. We can upload LENS at loyolites.com and promote it via the e-newsletter. But first, LENS <i>venamallo</i>?</p>
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		<title>By: Syam Nath S</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Syam Nath S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOBA fails to keep up with the times for want of young blood.
The plans for the site not working as expected to.
Mebbe the its time others took over.
I don&#039;t have the answers. What is wrong ? 

And yes, LENS would have been immensly popular. I propose them(those kids) that i&#039;d do the uploading work if they were to finish it and give me a copy, hard or soft.

Tons of jobless people like me around ya know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOBA fails to keep up with the times for want of young blood.<br />
The plans for the site not working as expected to.<br />
Mebbe the its time others took over.<br />
I don&#8217;t have the answers. What is wrong ? </p>
<p>And yes, LENS would have been immensly popular. I propose them(those kids) that i&#8217;d do the uploading work if they were to finish it and give me a copy, hard or soft.</p>
<p>Tons of jobless people like me around ya know.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOBA is active -- it recently hosted the national Jesuit Alumni meet, no? I was merely tracing the history of alumni products. LOBA is &quot;less active&quot; in this sphere probably because its focus nowadays is the school, and not the old boys. Otherwise, the Association would have facilitated or created e-groups, websites, etc. before individuals created them.

If what I heard is true, it&#039;s a pity that LENS got caught up in silly excuses and petty fights in 2007-08. It&#039;s a Loyola product that would have been immensely popular online.

Anyway, there&#039;s no point in complaining. Little Boys should develop their own products and services :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOBA is active &#8212; it recently hosted the national Jesuit Alumni meet, no? I was merely tracing the history of alumni products. LOBA is &#8220;less active&#8221; in this sphere probably because its focus nowadays is the school, and not the old boys. Otherwise, the Association would have facilitated or created e-groups, websites, etc. before individuals created them.</p>
<p>If what I heard is true, it&#8217;s a pity that LENS got caught up in silly excuses and petty fights in 2007-08. It&#8217;s a Loyola product that would have been immensely popular online.</p>
<p>Anyway, there&#8217;s no point in complaining. Little Boys should develop their own products and services <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Syam Nath S</title>
		<link>http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/2008/01/15/products-and-services-for-loyola-alumni/comment-page-1/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>Syam Nath S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOBA is comparetively less active than this place. I agree. But ennu vechu LOBA de notice board il thanne ividethe ad ittittu LOBAku ittu paniyano ? :D LOL

The LENS. You spoke to those kids at school the other day. In school thers a belief that you can&#039;t do anything without a teacher&#039;s support. DP used to take everything onto her shoulders earlier. With her gone now, no one wants to take the &quot;responsibility&quot; , in case it flops n they get the blame.

I&#039;m all for the idea. To those who ask why .
Because we can!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOBA is comparetively less active than this place. I agree. But ennu vechu LOBA de notice board il thanne ividethe ad ittittu LOBAku ittu paniyano ? <img src='http://www.ashok.loyolites.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  LOL</p>
<p>The LENS. You spoke to those kids at school the other day. In school thers a belief that you can&#8217;t do anything without a teacher&#8217;s support. DP used to take everything onto her shoulders earlier. With her gone now, no one wants to take the &#8220;responsibility&#8221; , in case it flops n they get the blame.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for the idea. To those who ask why .<br />
Because we can!</p>
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